Morokoyo
                       
                      So a friend of mine was having a casual conversation 
                        with me about how she pissed her man (boyfriend) off and 
                        the guy punched the wall right in front of her. And she 
                        giggled “men are so predictable” So I sat her down and 
                        gave her a lecture that something is wrong. That there 
                        goes the sign in front of her right there. If you get 
                        married, he will punch your face. I went straight to the 
                        point. My girl was like noooooo. Shebi he was just mad. 
                        Now my question is where do you draw the line? A lot of 
                        women (well according to research) always see the signs 
                        before it actually happens. Is extreme to assume a man 
                        that punches the wall might eventually punch your face? 
                      
                      
                      Eldiva
                      
                      That was how it started with my son's father until he 
                        put his hands on me. I am telling you when you see those 
                        red flag, do not ignore them. I ignored them and was sorry 
                        for it. 
                      
                      Morokoyo
                      
                      Thanks for being candid with your personal experience. 
                        I really appreciate it as it serves for lessons for some 
                        of us out here. 
                      
                      Mr. Smith
                       
                      It depends on how she pissed him off. Women typically 
                        internalize ish, we men don't, we gotta let it out. Punching 
                        a wall don't mean he will later punch her face because 
                        they married. Showing anger is natural, beating is not. 
                      
                      
                      Morokoyo
                      
                      But the truth is, if a guy punches the wall while you 
                        are still dating, who says he won't dent your face after 
                        u marry him? Again, note that most abused women will tell 
                        u they say the signs but ignored it. Basic So the 
                        signs are punching the wall? really, didn’t realize psychoanalysis 
                        was one of your forte. what about the guy who gets upset 
                        and he grabs his palms in anger? That tells you what? 
                        The guy is human, truth is a woman is more likely to throw 
                        objects and ish out of anger. Mr. Smith The real 
                        issue is controlling his anger on the guys part and knowing 
                        what buttons to push on the woman’s part. If this dude 
                        is quick to run to the basement to hit the punching bags 
                        would it be different than punching the wall? If you ask 
                        me, punching a wall is also a sign she pushed a button 
                        she prolly shouldn't have. Now if there are a lot of those 
                        buttons then she might be wise to re-evaluate their relationship. 
                      
                      
                      Basic
                       
                      What nonsensical crap. The guy who lets out steam one 
                        way or the other is better than the guy who keeps it all 
                        bottled up in him cos one day when he is overwhelmed and 
                        he lets it all out, chances are that he wont be hitting 
                        the wall. Abuse is not only physical. Is it alright to 
                        respond to emotional abuse with physical abuse? If women 
                        were stronger than men, there will be worse cases of abuse 
                        in society. Women know they are not as strong as men, 
                        so they try desperately to break him down, they call him 
                        bitch, they say he is weak and a lot of them even hit 
                        the guy first and when he responds appropriately, they 
                        term him the abuser. Any woman that lays a finger on any 
                        man deserves to be beaten silly. Thats my philosophy. 
                      
                      
                      Mr. Smith
                       
                      I hold a similar philosophy: "I don't beat/spank women 
                        (outside the bedroom) but if you lay your hands on me 
                        first (or hurl sumn at me), all bets are off." Don't mean 
                        I'll respond by beating her, but that guarantee that I 
                        won't is null & voided at that point. I make it VERY 
                        CLEAR with every woman I've been with.
                      
                      Neon79
                      
                      I think like Basic said it is the guy that doesn't show 
                        any sign of anger that is the dangerous one. 
                      
                      Barron Hertzog
                      
                      Abeg no dey pay attention to these women and their lifetime 
                        movie network stories..
                      
                      Eldiva
                      
                      So in other words, you agree that men should abuse women. 
                        The only way a man can make himself heard is to let it 
                        all out through his fist. Let me tell you a little something 
                        about men that hit women. It is because they have a dick 
                        the size of a toddler's own. In the case of my sperm donor, 
                        he will not fight with men because in 3 different occasions, 
                        I have seen his ass whopped. Now when it comes to my turn, 
                        the nigga will raise his hands faster than the speed of 
                        an angry bullet. Men that hit women do so because there 
                        are some inadequacies in their life. They have bruised 
                        egos and feel the need to hit a woman to feel superior 
                        and mighty. Like I said, I have learnt my lesson. Any 
                        man wey show any kind sign say he be woman beater, I go 
                        ja commot.
                      
                      Basic
                      
                      All I'm saying is that a woman who abuses her man physically 
                        by hitting him first deserves to be beaten silly, when 
                        I say beaten silly I mean beaten silly. No man deserves 
                        to be abused by women
                        I am also saying that a woman who emotionally abuses her 
                        husband by calling him weak will eventually get whats 
                        coming to her. One form of abuse isnt less serious than 
                        the other. 
                      
                      Bartgmu
                       
                      I don't agree that punching the wall is necessarily a 
                        symptom of an abusive man. It's definitely not a thing 
                        to be proud of. Still I would rather a woman err on the 
                        side of caution than adopt the ostrich approach. No one 
                        deserves to be mutilated by their so-called loved one 
                        regardless of how many buttons the woman has pushed or 
                        how hard she pushed them.
                      
                      The Exception
                      
                      Mr. Smith said what's the difference between punching 
                        the wall and going to a punching bag... the difference 
                        is that he processed the anger a bit to go elsewhere and 
                        find a punching bag to work off some steam. When you punch 
                        the wall right then and there, you're either trying to 
                        intimidate the woman with you physical strength or you're 
                        going off some base instinct. I agree that women shouldn't 
                        engage in physical abuse by slapping him first, but by 
                        no means should slapping her silly or returning the favor 
                        even creep up into your head, because things can escalate 
                        so quickly in certain situations. Don't even try to grab 
                        her hands or anything, just leave her be.